November 01, 2007

In case you haven't seen....

Sometimes I just HATE bein' on the road. Yesterday was one of those times.

AWTM broke a story that EVERYONE should read. NOW, if you haven't already. And watch the video. Do It.

I've seen this show, as I used to sleep with Nick on and I woke up to that shit every morning. Usually it's just the same few shows played over and over and over. They must have taped this for the "new season". The ones that I had seen, the main guest was usually Bill Clinton - surprise surprise.

But the one that AW's husband and kids saw yesterday morning? I hadn't seen that one. No. THAT one is new.

And it is horrific. You do NOT use children. You do NOT brainwash children because you can't convince the parents to see things your way. You do NOT teach our children to disrespect the government or our military. You Do Not!!!

If you haven't seen the comment thread over at Blackfive's, where he links her post, you need to read that also. Some readers have done a lot of research and I think it's important to understand who is who and what they represent. Actions speak louder than words, and the actions of the groups that show represents is sickening.

I wrote my letters to Nick and Viacom last night. I also sent a note to Hasbro. AW gives us ALL the contact info we need. I'm asking that you read, watch and then write. Let them know this is UNACCEPTABLE.

THEN...because I believe actions speak so loud, take action. I don't have kids, but I can promise you Nick will no longer be available at my house. I'll invest in kids videos. I have no problem with that. AND...if Hasbro doesn't do SOMETHING there will be none of their products either in my house or given as gifts.

Telling children that our military men and women are torturers and murderers is beyond horrific. Especially saying that when the children of those very hero's are fighting a war for our freedom and safety is, in my book, the very lowest of the low.

I'm taking action. Will you?

Posted by Tammi at November 1, 2007 06:50 AM | TrackBack
Comments

can you believe the WCW? insane....

bloggers are so awesome

Posted by: awtm at November 1, 2007 07:22 AM

and you're supposed to do?

let them sit and watch Faux Noise? (Fox News)

Please!

I don't think that what they're doing is right, don't get my wrong.

But telling kids that Democrats is evil, is just inane bullshit.

Yeah, I know, you're going to get pissed off, too bad. The Republican Party is nothing more than a bunch of asshole Elitists who hate the middle class. Not to mention they're brimming with hypocrisy.

Hopefully, I don't get banned from commenting here, but this post touched a nerve.

:-/

Posted by: Chuck Adkins at November 1, 2007 07:51 AM

I'm not saying to tell kids Dems are evil. I'm saying Leave Them The Hell OUT of this. They are too young. They don't understand. They just listen and absorb all that info.

There are certain fights that CHILDREN should NOT be a part of. Period.

I'd be almost, ALMOST as outraged if the conservatives were doing the same thing. What makes my blood boil is them trying to teach children that our Military are murderers and torturers. THAT is beyond the pall.

Posted by: Tammi at November 1, 2007 07:58 AM

Baloney. Teaching them young is the right thing to do.

Posted by: Chuck Adkins at November 1, 2007 08:04 AM

Teaching them when they are young? Yes. Teaching them to say Please and Thank You. Teaching them to cover their mouth when they cough. Teaching them to close the door behind them.

SHOWING them how to be responsible. SHOWING them how to be good people. SHOWING them to be a part of the process. THAT is important.

But telling them that our military are EVIL? No. Not at all.

I have said, and will continue to say that children should NOT be a part of this. There is NO WAY that they can understand the entire situation. Hell, half the adults don't understand the entire situation. How can we expect kids too?

Children's programming should NOT be a platform for ANYONE'S political views. Period.

Posted by: Tammi at November 1, 2007 08:22 AM

Chuck,

I do not think children's programming should contain photos of dead children at 5:30am....did you watch the video?

Posted by: awtm at November 1, 2007 08:52 AM

Doesn't Viacom own Blockbuster, too? That's another way. Not that anyone uses Blockbuster anymore. Netflix is the bomb.

Posted by: sarahk at November 1, 2007 10:58 AM

Have sent out my thoughts, even asking about their committment to diversity and diverse opinions. Suggested to Hasbro that they advertise somewhere that didn't hate their products so much and so openly. Educate children? Yes. Indoctrinate children? Hell no. That wasn't news and had no pretense of journalistic standards or ethics (say that as Kappa Tau Alpha member). That was pure propaganda, nothing more, nothing less. Thanks for getting the word out AWTM!

Posted by: Laughing Wolf at November 1, 2007 11:59 AM

Yeah I watched it.

So, if they were making banner that said "support our troops" and "Support our President", it'd be perfectly fine. But because it's kids who Do Not support our President, then it's mean, evil, and fattening eh?

just more example of blatant hypocrisy of the chickenhawk right.

Posted by: Chuck Adkins at November 1, 2007 02:11 PM

Chuck, you just showed yourself as fundamentally unsound and unserious. Chickenhawk? AWTM is a milspouse, her DH has served over there. As for me, I just got back from going over there to report on what was going on. Am I a chickenhawk as well? You might also check into the credetials of some of the others who have posted here and at AWTM -- chickenhawks not. BTW, I've tried to enlist -- too old. I'd say there's only one hypocrite posting on this thread... Get a grip, get some grey matter, and grow up. As for me, you no longer exist for response as there is no possibility of rational discourse with you.

Posted by: Laughing Wolf at November 1, 2007 03:22 PM

Ok Chuck. I'm done. Over it. It is obvious that you cannot manage respectful debate. That is especially obvious by your post. And yes, I did go read it.

You've been warned before. While I cannot and would never assume to try to have any impact on what anyone writes on THEIR site, you have crossed the line with me. Period. I told you I am very loyal, and that those closest to me have my complete and total backing.

Like I said, I have no right to tell anyone what they can and cannnot write, but I do have the right to control those I have around me.

Any further comments from you will be deleted. Period. It's a first for me, but then again, I've never had anyone come to my home and act this way.

No emails. Calls. NOTHING. I can't keep you from clicking over but I am hoping that knowing you are NOT WELCOME here will stop you.

Posted by: Tammi at November 1, 2007 04:09 PM

The political aspects (right vs. left, Republican vs. Democrat, etc.) are not the issue. The CONTENT - the dead bodies of small children - and the fact that such images are shown on a children's network - is the issue.

Just as I would never take my 4 and 6 year olds to an R-rated, graphic, violent, gory movie, I would NEVER allow my children to watch something like this. Again, not because of the political content but because MY children have no need to SEE dead bodies.

I am all for civic responsibility. I encourage my children (well, more the 6 year old) to learn about issues we face and consider ways they can make a difference. I have explained the situation in Iraq - in age appropriate ways - to my children as well as the mission their daddy was fulfilling while he was there. They get the basics. They also understand that there are people in this country that do not agree that we should be there and the fact that disagreeing is their RIGHT.

But showing dead children - mangled, bloodied bodies - on a children's network is unacceptable in ANY capacity. For ANY reason. Period.

Posted by: HomefrontSix at November 2, 2007 05:09 PM

chuck, the hipocrisy is yours.

since you think there's meaning in hypotheticals, per your nonsence about this being the equivalent of kids holding pro-troop signs, we can demonstrate this in hypothetical steps:

if someone like brit hume produced and anchored a "news" segment directed at nine year olds, the progressive blogs would light up red. olberman would invest an entire show in framing the segment as some form of pedophilia.

if this segment was themed "standing up for what is right" and proceeded to construct a model of that theme which excluded all but the the right's "stands" and the right's notions of what is "right", presenting for instance "affirmative action bakesales", and "catch the illegal" demonstrations as model activities, the progressive blogs would light up triple-red. harry reid would get involved.

now, ellerby's prosthletizing does both these things IN REAL LIFE. ellerby goes yet another step further IN REAL LIFE, by promoting the WCW, which is a front group for a maoist communist sect which is doctrinally dedicated to the overthrow of the united states government and avowedly supports terrorist groups like the Shining Path.

so you might be able to understand a bit why this is getting coverage on conservative blogs, who otherwise let the left's typical targetting of children with propaganda alone, consider this last hypothetical:

brit hume's "news" show for children, aimed at nine year olds, has a segment which features the antiwar movement - but the antiwar group featured is david duke's organization, "no war for israel".

the progressive blogs wouldn't light up red so much as theyd casually link to the dozens of mainstream news broadcasts covering the fiasco. it would be talked about on every cable and broadcast news or opinion show, the subject of every column published in that weekend's edition of every newspaper. the children's programming station would avoid having their status reviewed and revoked by firing everyone up to the cheif programming director.

but here's the hypothetical really diverges from the real life example presented in ellerby's nicknews segment: all of the conservative bloggers and pundits would move on principle to immediately disavow hume and disaggregate themselves from him.

Posted by: jummy at November 2, 2007 08:57 PM

that is to say, as distinct from your shilling.

Posted by: jummy at November 2, 2007 09:00 PM

"HomefrontSix"

why not for the sake of the political aspects?

i wouldn't force my kid to watch the nick berg beheading or videos of feyadeen saddam cutting out tougues, or stonings in tehran, or any myriad graphic depictions of violence because it may have pedagogical value.

i see many many progressives suggest that they'd gladly sit their (your) kids down in front of a slideshow of war carnage in response to concerns such as yours about the general innapropriateness of gore. they claim that the reason they'd do this is because they'd want their (your) kids to know the "truth".

but what do you suppose their reaction would be if nickelodeon showed the relatively bloodless images of the wtc towers falling, much less the agonizing brutality of a beheading, of a taliban firing an ak into the skull of a handcuffed woman on a soccer feild?

the hipocrisy is theirs, homefrontsix. its in their shilling. their flackery.

the distinction is political. you have a right to assert your political objections in political terms.

Posted by: jummy at November 2, 2007 09:19 PM
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