When I was still a Floridian, there was this big brouhaha about giving ex-cons the right to vote and other civil rights as soon as they did their time.
I'll be honest with you. Personally, I'm against it. It's my whole theory of action leads to reaction. You break the law, you go to jail, you loose many of your civil rights. Period.
But like I said. That's my personal opinion.
Well, I see this morning that Florida lawmakers have put their stamp of approval on a bill and now, all most ex-cons have to do is wait for the state clemency board to send 'em a letter and Voila!
Now, violent criminals still have to "prove themselves" before they gain all their rights, but it's just a matter of staying crime free and they'll be able to vote and all other manner of cool things.
But here's what gets me. And I'll probably piss some people off but hey - my blog, my thoughts. In the article linked above there is a money quote that I just have to comment on.
Florida's previous refusal to erase the prohibition has been seen among many blacks as an unfair effort to limit members of their community from a full place in the state's civil affairs.
I remember the first time I heard that argument. I was living in Tampa (yes, this has been a "priority" for that long). I swear my jaw hit the table. No where does the law mention color. No Where. We had black criminals, yes. But there are also white criminals, latin criminals, asian criminals. This was not and never has been a BLACK vs WHITE issue.
They were throwing numbers around, saying that the majority of criminals were african american, and they truly believed that by denyin' those who break our laws the basic right to vote, or serve on a jury, we were being biased.
How 'bout this. Here's my suggestion. I don't care what your background is. I don't care what race you are. Don't break the law. Don't sell drugs. Don't prostitute yourself. Don't rob gas stations. Don't beat your spouse or abuse your child. Don't steal cars. Just Don't Do It. If it's that important that you retain all of your civil rights than BE AN UPRIGHT CITIZEN. For cryin' out loud.....
I'm tellin' you - I'm just so sick and tired of people thinking that no matter what they do, how they act, what they say they should have NO LONG TERM REPERUCUSSIONS. As a society, we're just goin' soft. Next thing you know we'll be leavin' mints on their pillows in prison.
Posted by Tammi at April 6, 2007 05:31 AM | TrackBackI have mixed feelings about this.
Commit a felony when you're 18, do your 3 years and straighten up, but then you can't vote when your 45 year old tax paying citizen?
Seems a bit harsh.
Now maybe for career criminals. Just a thought.
But, my comment, my thoughts... ;)
And you are correct, the whole race argument is BS.
Posted by: jimmyb at April 6, 2007 12:00 PM"lose", not "loose".
(You can delete that line after you fix the post.)
As for the voting rights - I think they should be restored after the term and probation have been served. To me, the entire concept of punishment is to "settle the debt to society". After that debt has been paid, their full rights should be restored. In most cases, including guns.
That's my take. I think we'll disagree forever on it, and that's fine.
I don't have a problem, after a time. HOWEVER, I don't think it should be automatic either.
That being said......
You know 1/2 my charm is the fact that I type/spell like crap. Plus, at 5:00am before my 2nd cup of coffee, well...I ain't so good.
Hey - _Jon? You ever think about gettin' a blog? :-)
Posted by: Tammi at April 6, 2007 08:41 PMFunny, I just got an e-mail from my server / admin guy. It seems he might just finally have time to help me. mebbe.
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They have to "prove themselves"? Like, say they're really, REALLY sorry...?
I don't buy it. You ruin someone's life by destruction, rape or murder, you don't deserve shit from a civil society. Yeah, they all "serve their time", but people are saying we shouldn't make them *feel* bad for what they did in the first place?
They should never be allowed to forget what they've done & the loss of their rights to vote, or legally own a firearm (like that'd stop 'em, right?), or in some cases, own property is a good way of making them *think* of the reasons they lost those rights.
/end rant...
Posted by: Wes at April 9, 2007 09:53 AM