September 29, 2004

My Two Cents Worth

Bou has a very interesting post up in response to something over at Frizzen Sparks. Of course I do have something to add. And, like Bou, it's not bashing, it's not femisist - it's just what I've experienced in my career.

I've always worked in a "mans" world. The industries that I've worked in and the jobs I've chosen are those usually done by men. It was never intentional, it was just what I wanted to do.

I've always had to work harder, longer and with little support. Part of that was because I am a woman. Part of that is because I was never able to finish college. Nope - I'm about 6 months shy of my BA. And believe me when I tell you I pay for that every time I turn around.

To me.....that is unfair. Now let me be specific. If I'm in my 20's and starting a new career I expect to start at lower pay, hell I expect to have to work my way up in order to prove that my lack of a sheepskin does not mean I'm not bright. And I have, with almost every position I've ever had. I take what ever I can get, and bust my ass to get ahead. I knew that was how it was going to be and accepted it.

But....let's fast forward to now. 20 years experience. Awards aplenty. Technical training documented. Proven track record. Going for a job in my field, and someone comes in with a degree in forestry (yes, it really happened) and not only get's a job, gets the job as my boss. Not because they know a damn thing about the industry but because they are 1) A Man and 2) have a degree. No, that doesn't really work for me. And just so you know, I ate his lunch. He didn't last more than 6 months. I didn't start out to take him down, I did it because he was an ass. Nothing personal, just happened that way. He actually did it himself by alienating himself from the team and acting like I couldn't possibly know anything - you know, since I didn't finish college.

And many times I've had problems because I was a woman. Especially when I was married, as they worried that my duties as wife and step mom would intrude on my work. So, I had to work 2x as hard to show them that wasn't the case. They worried that I'd leave to have a family of my own. I actually had to tell a perspective employer that I couldn't have children before they would consider me for the job. (I turned it down later, because I had a bad feeling about it.) But seriously that should NEVER have been a factor. Look at my history, look at my accomplishments, look at my track record - then make your decision.

I've seen plenty of women that milk the system. It makes me crazy. But on the flip side, I've seen just as many men do the same damn thing. What it boils down to is character, work ethic and drive. Some people believe in always doing their best and always trying harder. Many don't.

So......what I'm trying to say is that in my perfect world it's all about performance. Once you reach a certain point in your career - what should matter is what you know, how well you perform, and if you have the skills to do the job. That's it. Simple as that.

Posted by Tammi at September 29, 2004 07:16 AM | TrackBack
Comments

Well said.

A degree only takes you so far, the rest is experience and should count for alot more than some give credit for.

Posted by: Jovi at September 29, 2004 09:15 AM

Agreed, it SHOULD be about performance. And if I ever needed someone to help me with mattress-related activities, you'd be the first person I'd call.

Wait... did that sound dirty?

Nevermind.

Anyway, your point about women who "milk the system" is well-taken. It's women like them who make it harder for women like you who take their jobs seriously.

Posted by: Harvey at September 29, 2004 09:36 AM

It's true, a complete double edged sword. There are many men who milk the system and nobody automatically thinks women are unreliable. A couple women do, and suddenly we're all worthless. How irritating.

It should be by performance. Once your foot is in the door, it is irrelevant how you got there as long as you perform.

Posted by: Boudicca at September 29, 2004 05:00 PM

It should be about performance, I agree. Last time I worked in IT we had a tech there who was absolutely wonderful. He knew everything there was to know about every server, every connection, what could go wrong, how to prevent it... everything. But he couldn't get promoted because he'd learned it all on the job (30+ years worth on the job).
But he didn't have a degree.

At least he didn't have to put up with people worrying about whether he'd have kids...

Posted by: Kathy K at September 29, 2004 05:16 PM